Ryan Garner: An Honest Discussion About Fighting

I'm the best.

You would never see that kind of thing on a baseball diamond. I’m pretty sure there have been about 10 baseball punches landed over the last two decades, and Nolan Ryan landed six of them. Baseball has been neutered by a lack of celebration and outward emotion. How often do you see a baseball player care enough about the team to put himself in physical danger? About as often as you see overt happiness, which is usually limited to the moments after the final out of the World Series.

Very little contact in Baseball, I wouldn't expect it either. I sooner see a brawl in a Snooker game.

Ryan Garner: An Honest Discussion About Fighting
- Ryan Garner

The same injury could've happend if Parros was hit with a hip check and went up and over and landed on his head.

Fighting is and should be a part of hockey...period!!!

I'm the best.
- laughs2907

You sure are pumpkin...

The same injury could've happend if Parros was hit with a hip check and went up and over and landed on his head.

Fighting is and should be a part of hockey...period!!!
- whipper334

Time to design a chin strap that protects the chin when falling face first.

You sure are pumpkin...
- whipper334

(frank)in' right!

Time to design a chin strap that protects the chin when falling face first.
- Lahey

Let's Dragon Den/Shark Tank that sh1t!

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...goalie-pads-espn-magazine

Only 30 guys, but 60% of them want the instigator abolished.

Let's Dragon Den/Shark Tank that sh1t!
- laughs2907

So a mask with a cage that has a chin guard? Like we used when we were younger?

So a mask with a cage that has a chin guard? Like we used when we were younger?
- Yeti1181

It'll be cooler.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/9764686/nhl-players-speak-anonymously-realignment-peds-goalie-pads-espn-magazine

Only 30 guys, but 60% of them want the instigator abolished.
- Lahey

Legally I don't think they can get rid of it, but I was always under the impression that it wasn't a majority wanting it abolished. More undecided and no.

So a mask with a cage that has a chin guard? Like we used when we were younger?
- Yeti1181

Honestly if they really cared about concussions then yes that's what you would do.

Prevents any stick from doing damage to the face. Any puck, elbow or other foreign object. Would also allow them to develop a helmet that would drastically cut concussions.

But then again they won't mandate the concussion preventing helmets that exist already, so really who the (frank) am I kidding.

It'll be cooler.
- laughs2907

Cool designs, and iPod dock?

Time to design a chin strap that protects the chin when falling face first.
- Lahey

Agreed!

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/9764686/nhl-players-speak-anonymously-realignment-peds-goalie-pads-espn-magazine

Only 30 guys, but 60% of them want the instigator abolished.
- Lahey

It should be!

Agreed!
- whipper334

Well, I must be wrong then.

Honestly if they really cared about concussions then yes that's what you would do.

Prevents any stick from doing damage to the face. Any puck, elbow or other foreign object. Would also allow them to develop a helmet that would drastically cut concussions.

But then again they won't mandate the concussion preventing helmets that exist already, so really who the (frank) am I kidding.
- Lahey

If I were in the NHL, I'd wear one... (frank) that, I'd wear two!

Honestly if they really cared about concussions then yes that's what you would do.

Prevents any stick from doing damage to the face. Any puck, elbow or other foreign object. Would also allow them to develop a helmet that would drastically cut concussions.

But then again they won't mandate the concussion preventing helmets that exist already, so really who the (frank) am I kidding.
- Lahey

Good point. They never seem to want to mandate anything in the NHL even simple things like the Kevlar socks that will help cut down on dangerous cuts ie. karlsson or even the visors be mandated.

If I were in the NHL, I'd wear one... (frank) that, I'd wear two!
- laughs2907

If you were in the NHL, I'd watch women's hockey instead.

Well, I must be wrong then.
- Lahey

Cool designs, and iPod dock?
- Yeti1181

Racing stripes in selected team's colors, and an iPod dock.

Racing stripes in selected team's colors, and an iPod dock.
- laughs2907

Niceeeeee

Ok, interesting. However,the fact is, with more concussion issues coming to be known and the start of the law suits, we've already begun the inevitable slide downhill to the abolishment of fighting in team sports, but especially hockey. Sure, we all love to see it for the reasons you've set out, but there are personal & legal consequences.
So, in most Rec leagues & especially Oldtimers (those over 35), fighting is banned. First offence in Oldtimers is a 1 year suspension in most places. Sure, at times tempers flair, harsh words are spoken and there's a shove or two, but that year-long ban is really effective.
The die is cast. It won't happen for years yet, but it will happen. Like it or not, fighting will be banned from hockey.

Good point. They never seem to want to mandate anything in the NHL even simple things like the Kevlar socks that will help cut down on dangerous cuts ie. karlsson or even the visors be mandated.
- Yeti1181

It's a legal thing. Someone was on Gregor's show talking about it and it comes down to if the NHL mandate a particular piece of equipment and then someone gets killed with that piece of equipment then the NHL is screwed.


It's apparently a very fine line.